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I haven't made any sales yet, but I don't even know how to tell if any of my listings are even being looked at. Is there a place where I can see the stats for my listings. Can I add Google Analytics?  Something?  Because I have no idea if my promotion efforts are even doing anything.

Okay, I found a place where I could see the views on my items, but it doesn't tell me where those views came from. And, my understanding is that when I view my items it counts also.  So, how am I supposed to know what's working and what isn't working. I mean, obviously, right now, nothing is working, because I haven't made a sale yet.  

I'm honestly starting to regret opening a shop here, because I feel like I don't have any info to go on. 

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Currently I think the only way to check if you are being seen is by the number of views. I have only had one sale, (been here since June) and that was to a friend. The site needs a lot more work, but I have faith that it is going to be a success.

Another Forum member encouraged me to Tweet out some of my listings and then go back and see the increase in views. This was definitely true. However, sometimes when I see that one of my items has had 224 views and no sales, it's not always encouraging.

Best of luck!


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I guess I'm just discouraged because I'm tweeting my listings. I'm sharing them on Facebook. I'm saving to Pinterest. And since I can't automate any of that work, I'm spending two-three hours a day on promotion trying to get people to see my stuff here, and it feels like I'm wasting my time. I don't want to be spending all my time doing that if I'm not going to get any results from it. I want to spend my time on things that are actually going to work. 

If I could see that my tweets, Facebook shares and Pinterest saves were actually generating some traffic, I'd feel better about all the work I'm putting in. Seeing how many views are on a listing is just useless info if I can't tell where those views came from. Heck, they could all be views from me going to the listing to share to those various places.

I know the site is in its infancy, but we need more tools in order to know if our promotion efforts are even helping the site.

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Loribeth, I have noticed that when I click on our listings the view count does NOT go up.  Are you promoting to your target market?  I rarely use social media (maybe twice a year I will throw something at facebook or pinterest).  I do donate to groups that will link our shop to their event or auction site.  I donate 4 - 6 items each year but to the type of groups that will be interested with what we make and sell.   
Forgive me if I am blunt, but I have been self employed for almost 40 years with various businesses.  I always give a new business 1 year to break even (by breaking even, I mean costs of doing business and not supplies to make items)  and 2 - 3 to turn a profit (even a very small profit).  Years 4 and on I can calculate growth.

On the other site I have all kinds of tools to play with, but honestly, I think they are pretty useless.  The buyer that tells me they saw 'someone' wearing one of our items did not find us through social media.  

You have beautiful prints and shop, I hope you give this site a fair chance to grow.  Just my 2 cents[smile]!

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Loribeth, I have noticed that when I click on our listings the view count does NOT go up.  Are you promoting to your target market?  I rarely use social media (maybe twice a year I will throw something at facebook or pinterest).  I do donate to groups that will link our shop to their event or auction site.  I donate 4 - 6 items each year but to the type of groups that will be interested with what we make and sell.   

You have beautiful prints and shop, I hope you give this site a fair chance to grow.  Just my 2 cents[smile]!


Thank you. I'm going to give it a chance to grow.

I was told on here that the view count does go up when we look at our listings ourselves. But I just tested after you said that they don't, and I see you're right. I feel much better about that number now.

I've been selling my art since 2013. So, yes, I do know my target market, and it isn't here in my home state. That's why my work is online. I do donate to charity groups, but I have found those really do not result in additional sales.

I broke even with my business a long time ago, so that is not the issue I have. I'm looking for additional venues to sell my work so that all my eggs are not in one basket, so to speak. 

I guess the thing that is frustrating me is I still don't know where those views are coming from and how those people who've looked at my listing here found me. I have no way of knowing whether the promoting I'm doing and the time I'm spending on it is actually working. That is very important info to know when you're trying to sell on a new venue, because what works for one site might not work for another site. But unless you have those stats, you just don't know and you might be wasting your time.

You mentioned that you don't do social media. But 4-6 items donated per year to charities doesn't seem as though it would garner enough traffic to keep your shop going. How do you promote your shop and get it in front of your target audience's eyes?

Thanks for the encouragement.

Loribeth

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I've heard the suggestion to decide to post on each social media platform on different days. If you post only on Twitter today, all new views of your item may be from that platform. Although that doesn't help with all views, at this time that's all I can suggest given the limitations of the stats we have at this time.

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Hi I'm new here and have 1 active listing which appears to be on a bidding page and it doesn't have the green "Buy Now" button or any info that I accept Paypal although I paid $5 and put my e-mail address in. Could someone help me with these issues. I'm not going to activate anymore of my imported listings until I can figure this out. I don't think my shop is activated although it says my listing is. Help!! I know this is off topic but I posted some questions last night and no one has responded and this thread seems active right now.


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Loribeth,

I agree that what works on one venue may not work on another.  I started this business renting space in a brick and mortar and what sold locally is much different than what sells on-line.

The groups that I donate to are large, and well established, and pet people.  We love our pets and people love to share pet type items.
 
I have been fortunate to have other people (usually happy buyers) share our items on social media.  Two or three years ago someone shared us with the 'corgi nation' on facebook and I was busy for 3 months making corgi items.  We are not a high volume seller.  We average 300 - 350 orders (400-450 items) a year which is as busy as I want to be.  It only takes one person to share our item to the right audience and we can be very busy for weeks or even months.   

I can understand where your frustration is coming from if you are spending a lot of time with social media.  Maybe post just one item and see if it results in extra views. Or adding a brand new item (not on other sites) and gauge the views when you post to social media.

Adding a few new designs can help with our sales also.  I have noticed certain trends with colors and what is popular one year may not be later on.  We have been on artyah for just over 2 months with no sales yet, but I am willing to give the site through the end of 2018.  The cost is very affordable and the owners are working non-stop to make improvements to the site.

I just hate to see anyone get discouraged when starting a new venture.  My partner Don gets discouraged that we have not had sales here, but it will take time to tell whether this site will work for us or not.  (my daughter who has several on-line business always tells us 'patience grasshopper').  In the meantime, I am including artyah business cards with orders we send out on E.  I am asking the groups that we donate to, to link to artyah (those will happen later this year).  I have told family, friends and anyone that will listen about artyah.

Loribeth, I am wishing you the very best!

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Loribeth - check your messages, top of your shop's home page.
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