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Have any of you seen what the Supreme court is fixing to rule on?
It looks like they will rule for everyone to collect taxes when they sell online.
How in the world will any of use be able to sell then? None of us will be able to file taxes in 50 different states.  I know if they rule that way I will have to quit selling online. How about the rest of you?

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I would guess they would make Artyah responsible rather than individual sellers as they would be the one with the larger sales turnover ?

Unlike digital sales to and from the EU, where even one item needs VAT paying on it it looks like they are talking about larger turnover companies rather than individuals from what I can read at the moment.

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I would guess they would make Artyah responsible rather than individual sellers as they would be the one with the larger sales turnover ?

Unlike digital sales to and from the EU, where even one item needs VAT paying on it it looks like they are talking about larger turnover companies rather than individuals from what I can read at the moment.


I certainly hope you are right about this.

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I only had a very quick look so may have misunderstood and they can always add different things.
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We in europe it is already being done by othere know sites

vat/Tva 3.5% on sells and the same on our 0.20cents they take 0.04 cents

So in the end rather then paying the inital 3.5% 2 years ago we now pay almost 7% total .

As a declared seller i pay 6.6 percent as well here .in may it will go to 13%.

when i decided to declare my revenu I was earning money which is no longer the case.

Now before my declaration 2 years ago I have about a 1/4 of the sells I used to have.


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I didn't know it was the supreme court. I think it is the house and senate that ruled on it. It didn't pass this time but they can try again in the fall of 2019. This is what I read on the etsy forums today.
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Here is a link to the discussion and it is the Supreme court.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/01/12/supreme-court-decide-if-online-retailers-must-collect-sales-tax/1021423001/

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Recently, either Amazon or Etsy added collection for another state, I think PA, to the state(s) for which it is already collecting. So that is voluntary. Like Christine, I understand these government threats to be aimed at website entities, rather than individual sellers on these sites.
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This is dated March 7, the latest info I found. Nothing decided yet and many variables are possible.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/377079-sales-tax-battle-moves-to-the-supreme-court

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If the governments were smart and we know that is not the case.  They could have each seller collect the tax for each sale regardless of the state the seller is located, then submit the taxes collected to the state where the seller lives.  This way, each state would get at least some tax revenue.  Anything the government tries to handle is always convoluted, either Federal or State.

I have been selling on the internet since 1998 and I have had only one $10.00 sale to South Dakota.  Can you imagine what it would cost the State to employee enough employees to handle the paper work for $.60 cents.  I live in Kentucky and annually I do not have very many sales in the state I live but every year I send in my few dollars.  Last year was a whopping $12.66, I do not think that could cover one pot hole after this past winter.  This is why I pay my sales taxes annually instead of quarterly.  Most of my sales come from the East and West coast.  Of all the 50 States, you would think the east and west coast states would be the ones screaming the loudest.
  

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Currently, California expects its citizens to pay these taxes through the California income tax.  It's called Use Tax and we're expected to tally the sales tax amount we "should" have paid on items we purchased online that were from other states.  Of course, I can't see anyone actually doing this.  You can't get away with not reporting it if you purchase a vehicle out of state or some other really expensive item, but I can't imagine regular people go back and calculate sales tax on all the items they purchased online from other states for the period of one year. It's actually kinda funny to imagine some of my purchases..."Okay, I bought a vacuum cleaner belt, some printer refill ink, some dishwasher rack repair tape, etc." I understand that California feels the loss, but it just isn't realistic to expect people to do this. We're also supposed to declare income received from recycling bottles. That's just sad since that's how many homeless people in the area make money.  I sincerely doubt they are filing income taxes though, or if they are, I hope the threshold is high enough they aren't actually paying any taxes on that income.  
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Currently, California expects its citizens to pay these taxes through the California income tax.  It's called Use Tax and we're expected to tally the sales tax amount we "should" have paid on items we purchased online that were from other states.  Of course, I can't see anyone actually doing this.  You can't get away with not reporting it if you purchase a vehicle out of state or some other really expensive item, but I can't imagine regular people go back and calculate sales tax on all the items they purchased online from other states for the period of one year. It's actually kinda funny to imagine some of my purchases..."Okay, I bought a vacuum cleaner belt, some printer refill ink, some dishwasher rack repair tape, etc." I understand that California feels the loss, but it just isn't realistic to expect people to do this. We're also supposed to declare income received from recycling bottles. That's just sad since that's how many homeless people in the area make money.  I sincerely doubt they are filing income taxes though, or if they are, I hope the threshold is high enough they aren't actually paying any taxes on that income.  


I know, right? Government spends too much time/money trying to bully the cottage sellers and those who are struggling to make ends meet when so many critical issues need to be addressed. A very critical one of government spending of massive amounts on what THEY want to spend funds on and claiming there are no funds for true needs of citizens. So sad.

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I'm somewhat familiar with the new ruling of collecting sales tax, but need more specifics.
Does anyone know if Artyah collects taxes with the sales transaction?
If so, to whom and how do we submit the collected sales money to? Do we have to register with each state for remittance?
Thanks for any help! 
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I'm somewhat familiar with the new ruling of collecting sales tax, but need more specifics.
Does anyone know if Artyah collects taxes with the sales transaction?
If so, to whom and how do we submit the collected sales money to? Do we have to register with each state for remittance?
Thanks for any help! 
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I think the selling sites will inform the sellers of anything that each may need to do. The collecting and submitting of any taxes will probably be done by site owners.

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