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Lowe40 I remember reading that people weren't allowed to post their licenses in their shop on the forums now that you mention it.

There needs to be a program so when the shops list TM/© names in title or description it won't make them live till it is proven they have a license.  I know it can be done since Etsy has one that won't let items list if they have certain words in them........Ivory, Cuba etc.  Just not sure how much work, money and time it would take be able to do something like that tho.

Just dreaming here...........................


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None of us really "enjoy" reporting other shops, but I think as others do; if we don't do it this site will become overrun with knockoffs and mass-produced items. Craig and Laura are so busy with improving and growing things for us that if we each do our little part it will hopefully help everyone. Those of us that have been around the block on other sites a few times especially will know what to look for and how to verify by cross-checking with the internet.
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I am interested in the safe harbor also.  I would think that a company has the right to refuse service to anyone.  If it is clearly stated that tm and copyright items are not allowed, than a seller would be the one responsible to provide the correct licensing to the company.  It seems that etsy is making the tm holders jump through hoops to protect their own property.
Provide the proper licensing and THEN be allowed to sell, should be the logical order.  
I understand that some licensing can not be disclosed, but should be allowed (to the site holder) to verify rights to selling said items.

Also, if someone claims that they cannot disclose the licensing agreement ... how can it be verified?  

I didn't mean to rant, but the whole tm, copyright infringing irritates me.  I see our images all over the internet and across many countries and nothing ever leads back to our items.

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hooknsaw.......I agree with you on the point that a seller should have to divulge the licensing agreements to the site owner.

I sure would think that if a seller has the licensing they would be able to give that information (privately) to the platform for verification.
If a seller refuses to disclose the information to the site owner then it shouldn't be allowed.

I know it isn't that easy but, it really should be.

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I am interested in the safe harbor also.  I would think that a company has the right to refuse service to anyone.  If it is clearly stated that tm and copyright items are not allowed, than a seller would be the one responsible to provide the correct licensing to the company.  It seems that etsy is making the tm holders jump through hoops to protect their own property.
Provide the proper licensing and THEN be allowed to sell, should be the logical order.  
I understand that some licensing can not be disclosed, but should be allowed (to the site holder) to verify rights to selling said items.

Also, if someone claims that they cannot disclose the licensing agreement ... how can it be verified?  

I didn't mean to rant, but the whole tm, copyright infringing irritates me.  I see our images all over the internet and across many countries and nothing ever leads back to our items.

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They should be able to provide us with the license number issued to them. We don't ask to see their contract agreement. That would be private. From what I read the number is not. Will try our best to keep up on it. 

And thank you to the person who reported the "Mature" content pendant! Good catch, it's gone.

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OriginalsbyLaura, thank you so much to you and your team for all of your hard work!  I really like this site and am looking forward to growing our business here!

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By the way, if you are a seller and you would like to use our Logo you have our permission [smile]
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Laura than you for letting us know that we can use the logo [smile]
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With regard to reporting trademarked listings, I wonder if we might have a more efficient way of reporting them.  I run across violations quite often and sometimes just write them down if in a hurry, and then send like a list to Craig...other times I report them as I find them.  But, I have to assume that I am not the only one finding these, and that Craig is perhaps having to check multiple times for the same listing, which is a big waste of his time...and the problem will only get bigger as we grow.  A search for the Beattles brings up 5 listings, Cinderella has several, Beauty and the Beast has a couple, Red Riding Hood has a bunch, Peter Pan has a few...and it's kinda like wack a mole in that we can find and report these, but more will come.  I am happy to help keep these offending listings off ArtYah, but wonder if anyone has any thoughts on a more efficient way?
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The only other idea I have been kicking around for a long time that may help with quality control, copyright infringement and manufacturing is turn ArtYah into an exclusive juried site. It's been a big thought.


Any input on this would be welcome.

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Does that mean that every listing will have to be approved before going active?  If so, that would be prohibitive time wise, I would think. 
 
It could be coded into the listing process that the listing is scanned for suspect words, so it would be like an error message, similar to when you forget to put in a shipping amount.  The seller can change the listing then or it could go into a holding file where Craig could perhaps override the rejection in certain cases...so he is only looking at the exceptions.  The suspect words could be a file that would keep growing as new violations are discovered.  Obviously, vintage listings would not have to go through this extra step.

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What a Juried site means, we would have the interested seller fill out a questionnaire with a link to where they sell. We look at what they are selling first and then approve them to sell on ArtYah. 

All sellers signed up now would not have to go through the process.  Still just a thought :-)

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It not a bad idea Laura.
It sure would make it easier for you all to make sure there aren't any re-sellers, © and Trademarked items filling up the sight.

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Having it a completely juried site would definitely give you more control over this kind of thing.
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Having sellers fill out a questionnaire might help, but what would stop a seller from later trying to add tm items?  I am always surprised at how many people don't even realize that infringing is wrong! 
Maybe adding basic rules to the questionnaire in the hopes that they will be read and followed?!  
I think the juried idea could work, it would probably mean a lot more time and extra work for the person(s) that have to approve the questionnaires[frown].

Is there a way to report individual listings instead of the entire store?  

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