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originalsbylaura

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The addition to the sign up form will certainly help Laura.


I sure hope so. 
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Thanks, Laura.  Always good to have the info.  I checked his Etsy shop - definitely copyright infringement stuff all over the place.  As for the mass merchandisers, I suppose it will be like weeds in the garden.  They keep sprouting up and you have to keep pulling them out.  [smile]
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What makes me sad is some of these talented creative artist and crafters do not need to sell their work based on Alice in wonderland, tinker bell etc. Maybe one day they will give it a try :-)
My dreams for this site is to be elegant and original, filled with the best vintage and antiques from all over the world. I have lots of determination and drive, I will get us there.
The new programmers are a gift. The hardest part of building a website is finding good programmers. "Super Dave" is awesome, he understands what we ask him to build, He loves what he does.
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I agree.  "Elegant and original."  I just LOVE that!

So happy we have Super Dave on board too!

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Laura I know who you are talking about........................."I was told of someone from Etsy is starting a new site, not sure when, but I checked on the person and he sells copyright infringement items, super mario and other items like this. Not vintage, handmade. Burns me up! He has a gofundme page and is selling shares for a website that is not even built or live yet. I normally don't post stuff like this, but I do worry about this guy and taking money from people. If anyone is interested in his "new" site here is his lovely Etsy page. Which I see Etsy does not care if he sells using super mario brothers and other names to sell his work."

He says that he has permission from the company(s) to sell and that is why his stuff hasn't been taken down by Etsy.  I don't know if it is true or not.
I am not defending him just saying this is what he tells people.


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Laura I know who you are talking about........................."I was told of someone from Etsy is starting a new site, not sure when, but I checked on the person and he sells copyright infringement items, super mario and other items like this. Not vintage, handmade. Burns me up! He has a gofundme page and is selling shares for a website that is not even built or live yet. I normally don't post stuff like this, If anyone is interested in his "new" site here is his lovely Etsy page. Which I see Etsy does not care if he sells using super mario brothers and other names to sell his work."

He says that he has permission from the company(s) to sell and that is why his stuff hasn't been taken down by Etsy.  I don't know if it is true or not.
I am not defending him just saying this is what he tells people.



I just hope he is on the up and up. If he builds this site good for him, I love the competition :-) Makes me push to be even better.
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Just found this on Nintendo

http://www.nintendo.com/corp/copyright.jsp
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The one thing we ran into when someone told us they had permission, we asked for a license number or a document giving permission. Then we called the company for a license number and are still waiting. So we will ask for documents if you claim to have permission.

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Good idea, Laura.  Talk is cheap and it's easy for someone to say, 'oh, I have permission,' like somehow Disney or whoever would actually give permission to some guy with an Etsy shop to use their intellectual property to sell light switch covers.
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That is one thing that always bother me...............if you have the license to sell it then why not show the proof in your shop?
I know these companies don't just give them out and most people wouldn't be able to afford to buy them.


I am so glad that ArtYah is taking control of this and trying to make sure that the resellers don't get a foothold on the site.

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That is one thing that always bother me...............if you have the license to sell it then why not show the proof in your shop?
I know these companies don't just give them out and most people wouldn't be able to afford to buy them.



I know it!  Man, if I paid any company $10,000, $25,000, or more to sell items with their permission, you better believe I'd be advertising that everywhere I could in my shops and listings! [biggrin]  But I don't see many of us small business people either being able to afford that kind of money upfront or meeting the companies' criteria to get permission.  I don't mean to suggest it's impossible, but I have yet to run into an Etsy shop owner who had permission from Marvel, Disney, or Sanrio.  Has anyone had a different experience?

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Laura, I honestly think having that little extra step when someone signs up to be a seller will help.  Many people are just naive and don't understand that a site can only be for sellers of certain items.  I've seen many Etsy forum threads started by newbies who ask how they are supposed to categorize their items when they're only given handmade, vintage or supplies.  They will often say something like "should I just put handmade?"  And those are just the people who bother with the forums, we all know that so many never even ask and just choose one of the main categories and never give it another thought.  Asking them point-blank when they sign up might be a good deterrent for those who are just ignorant or naive.  Hopefully! [smile]
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After Etsy, I'm confused on what constitutes "handmade." For example my wife has a gold chain. I bought her a diamond pendant to hang on it. It seems to me that according to the rules of Etsy, my wife and I made a handmade necklace, which of course is ridiculous. Hanging a manufactured pendant on a manufactured chain does not suddenly make us artists of a handmade creation. Likewise, she didn't hand-make her charm bracelet over the years either. She bought and added manufactured charms to a manufactured bracelet. Did she pick out the bracelet and the charms? Sure, so she made decisions, but she didn't hand-make any part of the bracelet. Every bit of it was store bought. So I don't get it. Luckily, I sell vintage.
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Lynne,
Apparently, in the TOU from some companies, when you get liscense/permission to use their name/image/etc you cannot show/post etc that liscense except in certian circumstances (like if etsy, Artyah, eBay etc requested it).
I'm guessing that's because it would be too easy for someone to C&P that & just change a few things to look legal for someone to steal & use..

I'm glad to see Artyah trying to keep a lid on this.
When I first started selling on etsy in 2007, Rob & the founders were good if you reported a shop to check into the shop/close them down if approperate. Even after he first left, then came back, it still wasn't bad. It didn't start getting really bad there until he was forced out. Since then, it's just gotten exponentially worse.

Just a question Laura, about y'all shutting down CR/TM/infringing folks....
Etsy says they can only shut ppl down when reported by the TM/CR owner or they lose their "safe harbor" status.
Is that true here too, or only after you get so big, or just a cop out from etsy?

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I'm very interested in the "safe harbor" status also.
Ebay will shut you down in a minute. 

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