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Wow!!  Just took a look at antique silver charms and it was anything but.  There was jewelry, cookware, doilies and everything else before you actually see charms.  1st page had charms; the rest were a mixture of everything else.  There are sections for all these items. ????????
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I've noticed this too. I wonder if people are putting items in the correct category? I guess you can click on the item and at the top of the page in red I think are the categories they used for listing the item.
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I feel sorry for some of the people though putting all those items under charms....they won't be found there.  They need to go in the own categories so they can be found.  It is sort of a waste of money to put the listing in wrong category where it can't be found.  Even vintage items are in the charms category.  Charms won't be found either.  Who wants to go through page after page of other articles to find what you are looking for...not me!
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No people are not putting in wrong category. Some of mine are in wrong category and I didn't put them there or use key words that would. I have mention this a couple times here and to Artyah but don't get much help. Worries me going into the holiday season. I was listing everything here but started listing on Etsy and Ebay again. I can't afford to not get sales this busy season. I was wanting this site to do well but if search doesn't work and no one is taking it seriously it won't. And that would be a shame.
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I am concerned about this as well.

I searched for "shampoo", and got hats socks, mittens and scarves.  Further inspection revealed that the wool socks (for example) were washed in shampoo!  

While that may explain why they were shown in search, it's still not a good thing.

I also checked "antique silver charms".  The first few pages were filled with antiqueD silver charms; so maybe not such a good search term?  A few pages on I came across an antique "thing".  No mention of the word "silver" or the word "charm".  

So much for my theory.

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Now I have got used to it I quite like this search.  It seems your most important words must go in the title as that seems to be searched first, and comes up in the search results first.  It then seems to search other fields and includes those in the listing so at first glance there are a lot of apparently unrelated items.  I do not know about tags as I have not done the research.  IF people use the titles as a description of their item then it should do well I think, if the person searching chooses those keywords.  The more unrelated items later on may show the potential customer something they did not know they wanted which could be of benefit. 

Sellers must use the title accurately, and truthfully, looking at some of the descriptions where the items are neither antique nor silver.  For instance Tibetan silver or marked as 925 - I now just think coloured metal.  I have hundreds of "European" glass beads and charms, they are all marked as 925 not one do I imagine is actually silver.


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I told Craig weeks ago that the search engine should look for full phrases first if the buyer types a phrase into search. Then WHERE that word apoears in the listing should matter. Titles first, then tags, then in the body of the listing. If I say a color of a hat reminds me of the ocean, that hat should not pop up when someone is looking for ocean photos. So the programming should also NOT include an item if it is listed in certain categories. i.e. it should eliminate as well as include. All the large sellers online have managed to do this, so Artyah should be able to also, and it had got to be done ASAP because I am already seeing sales of winter items on another site and the holidays selling season is fast approaching.
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One thing about the search that doesn't work for me is it includes shop names in the search, which is very confusing.  For instance, if I search for "tree bark", I get a couple valid listings, and then all listings from Barking Rock...nice jewelry, but not what I was looking for (hi barkrock!).  
I know sometimes people need to search by shop name, but perhaps that could be a separate selection...
Search functions must be incredibly complicated, and require constant work, just hope it gets upgraded soon, as if people can't find our listings, it doesn't matter if we have a shipping calculator or any of all the other fancy things sellers want on the site.

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I told Craig weeks ago that the search engine should look for full phrases first if the buyer types a phrase into search. Then WHERE that word apoears in the listing should matter. Titles first, then tags, then in the body of the listing. If I say a color of a hat reminds me of the ocean, that hat should not pop up when someone is looking for ocean photos. So the programming should also NOT include an item if it is listed in certain categories. i.e. it should eliminate as well as include. All the large sellers online have managed to do this, so Artyah should be able to also, and it had got to be done ASAP because I am already seeing sales of winter items on another site and the holidays selling season is fast approaching.


I totally agree. I have contacted twice and said the same but he explains away and does not do anything to fix. 

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After reading this post I thought I'd do a generic search. I typed in Vintage Book in the search bar (at the very top where it says "search for items & shops" and 15 vintage books were shown. Now I know there are a lot of vintage books listed, mine included, and a while back I changed most of my titles to include "vintage book". This is not working either as many of my vintage books do not show up. I also noted that if a have vintage art book, vintage movie book, or put any descriptive word between "vintage" and "book", it will not show up. (glassladyathome - I also did a search for vintage glass books and none of your glass books showed up.)

I also have 3 vintage military advertisements listed. I put in vintage military, only thing that came up was my vintage book on A History of the Women Marines; I put in vintage military print, nothing came up; I put in vintage military print ad; nothing came up; I put in vintage military aviation; nothing came up. None of my ads came up. When Craig says he doesn't want Military on the site, I guess he really means it. Obviously, it doesn't make sense for me to keep these items listed.

If buyers search the various categories, they might find what they are looking for. But if they're only going to do a search like I did, they won't. I suggest if you're concerned about search, to try a search for your own items and see what comes up. 

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Aaah... so it's not just me.  I thought maybe I just couldn't figure out how the search here worked.  

Howeverrrr... if this IS the way it's supposed to work, and I'm having issues with it... then I cannot help but feel that buyers will, too.  I could not believe the weird stuff which was coming up in the searches I tried to do here.  I finally just gave up, searched by category/section, and wondered what I might be missing elsewhere.  ::sigh:: 

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yep...just got a brown hat, paper dolls, and a baby quilt when I searched for a brown teapot!  Could definitely get confusing [smile]
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Just did a search for "ladies knitted scarf" got a few scarves ( my own mostly ☺☺) but then a whole load of vintage items which were from a shop with "lady" in the title - then went to the last page and more scarves 😶😶..... Confusing

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Some of you need to contact artyah. I have twice with no results. Maybe if others having the same problem contact them they will take it seriously.
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Now I have got used to it I quite like this search.  It seems your most important words must go in the title as that seems to be searched first, and comes up in the search results first.  It then seems to search other fields and includes those in the listing so at first glance there are a lot of apparently unrelated items.  I do not know about tags as I have not done the research.  IF people use the titles as a description of their item then it should do well I think, if the person searching chooses those keywords.  The more unrelated items later on may show the potential customer something they did not know they wanted which could be of benefit. 

Sellers must use the title accurately, and truthfully, looking at some of the descriptions where the items are neither antique nor silver.  For instance Tibetan silver or marked as 925 - I now just think coloured metal.  I have hundreds of "European" glass beads and charms, they are all marked as 925 not one do I imagine is actually silver.




This makes sense, that all words do seem to get used for a search, like in the title and description. If I am looking for a 'brown pot', the first results would be relevant items for the search, than anything that is brown or a pot would also show up in search results.

Since the site is still small a person just notices it more because there are fewer items listed that meet the search term used. 

It makes sense to me now.

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