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Christine

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This conversation immediately brings to mind the artist Lowry and the song about his work, Matchstick Men and Matchstick cats and dogs.  I now have this song going around in my head.


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Would using the word 'Artisan' help define the meaning of handmade i.e. Artisan Handmade Creations. 
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What a slippery slope!!! Craig, you said "(IMHO) I think what handmade means to me is that someone thought of the idea."   A knit hat is far from an original idea. A pendant on a chain is not nor is a greeting card with a photo.
A factory produced item is not handmade as you said in your clarification but we still have to be careful. My tape measures as an example: the actual tape is factory made. I alter them. Where do they fall in the definition?

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A factory produced item is not handmade as you said in your clarification but we still have to be careful. My tape measures as an example: the actual tape is factory made. I alter them. Where do they fall in the definition?


How about "Artisan hand embellished" ?

You have some very pretty tape measures

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I wasn't looking for a compliment but thank you, Christine! I am always reluctant to use labels on anything, I guess.
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Didn't Ebay take their business to some different levels when they first started out and from what I remember added on Ebay Motors because that became such a big section and outgrew the regular sections of Ebay.

Etsy and ArtYah already have Antiques and Supplies ...Etsy also has Wholesale I believe (not too sure how that's listed)  but it would be nice if Etsy added Manufactured Crafts or Embellished Manufactured or something like that to cover the difference between handmade by hand and factory made embellished.

... and why couldn't Artyah do something like that right from the start ...that way this gives ArtYah a chance to really grow and as long as it's set up that way right from the start Buyers and Sellers would have those boundaries set from the get go.

Yes, there will be people who are going to fudge intentionally to gain some ground but overall those will be exposed because many of us already know how to look for that and than those could be just leveled over to the proper areas within the site. 

Etsy would have a lot to gain by doing that now itself rather than have buyers getting scammed when they really think they're getting handmade and than find out it's manufactured... and I think that basically is what a site like ArtYah is trying to avoid while trying to stay true to itself.

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Emillie  I like the idea of having a manufactured section but, I could see people still listing under the handmade section instead.

It is such a slippery slope.  Most of us would use the correct sections but, there will always be those that won't.

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And in the other thread there are things that are being said about what is not handmade that I don't think are fair at all to many crafters. https://artyah.discussion.community/post/what-is-your-definition-of-handmade-9616520?pid=1302917781

@Craig What you said about your stick figure not being of value means that you don't value it. If you don't value your work nobody else will. Stick figures are precious and loved for children's decor. I can create a piece of artwork starting with a stick figure that a new mother would love and value. I can put a twist on it and create something that a bride, groom or newly-engaged couple would love.

@Craig I don't agree that what makes a handmade pendant necklace is a diamond pendant versus a pendant of less value, when they both were made the very same way, by hands putting them together.

As I said in the other thread, being too restrictive is going to cut out a lot of artists and crafters. Artyah does not need that with trying to grow and build membership. It's your site and your right to make whatever stipulations you feel are necessary, but with the way that the discussions are going in the way of purifying the creative flow, it's going to offend many who are handmades sellers.



Thanks for posting the link.😉

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