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Hi Everyone,

ArtYah is considering to allow manufacturing on our site. Do I have your attention?

We do not wish for this to happen.

We want ArtYah to stay HANDMADE.

We are losing a lot of money and cannot sustain the loss.

Etsy allowed manufacturers onto their site to avoid losses. That was their decision and it has panned out for them and has hurt thousands of sellers.

To offer manufactures another place to sell will not have the same impact on AY as it would with etsy as we are not quite as big as etsy or have the amount of traffic.

The bottom line is we need money to survive.

We need everyone that is "waiting" for something to happen, to start listing items. Re-listing items and telling everyone they know about ArtYah again and again. We need people that are making sales on other sites to also suggest to buy from them on AY as well.

ArtYah does have sales and people are signing up to only buy items.

We need everyone to band together now and help build ArtYah much like when it was etsy's turn to be built by the sellers when they left ebay.

Thank you for all of your support

Craig

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I for one am revamping my Artyah Shops.. I have alot of time on my hands since my Mom's passing.. I'm finding alot of new things I can list and I haven't even started going thru my 2 sheds yet.. Lots of vintage items stored there.. I'm not a Blogger but, maybe if any Sellers do Blog.. Maybe they can get the word out about Artyah that way.. There are a few sites where you can list your items and use Artyah as your website to send Buyers here.. One in particular I'm setting up with is Pocketbarn for $15.00 a month for unlimited listings.. I know everyone is looking to save money.. who isn't .. But it's another venue where you can send traffic to Artyah.. Sometimes one has to spend a little money to make money.. IMO. I was working on my listings when I lost my internet last night and this morning.. Still have so much to list yet.. I'm in.. Tell if there is anything else I can do to help Craig.. 
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Oops.. I re-named my shop Verde Valley B&B..

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I am going to try to list some of my clothing again but I cannot continue to list and pay for listings and get no sales. I just don't have that kind of money to do it with.
I would love for ArtYah to stay handmade.

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Probably as my things on my other sited here expire I will be moving them to the handmade variety shop. That is the only way I can continue here is to have it all in one shop so it doesn't cost so much.
 had been listing something from each category on the artyah facebook page but have been having computer trouble for a while and still am but will try to get back on it ASAP


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Oops.. I re-named my shop Verde Valley B&B..



I am sorry about the loss of your mom.  could you put your shop address in your signature so I can find you.

I don't know how this manufactured stuff will do with handmade.  they under sell handmade, and it can be cheaply made.  The biggest problem I find with all of these shop sites is they don't come up well in search engines.  If you search for anything Amazon, Ebay and Etsy are on the top. 

Lately I have had 650 views at my Zibbet shop in a week, lots of traffic. I did have one sale here in February. 

Edited to add:  I did notice that if I click on an item in my shop I have a big goose egg on my feedback rating and no stars.  The chances of a stranger leaving feedback (like for my sale) is slim.  I still wish we had a number saying xx sales, I know it helps to have a little track record instead of nothing.

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I have a Zibbett shop that is completely free but I can't seam to get any sales on it. Have you had any sales there?
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I have a Zibbett shop that is completely free but I can't seam to get any sales on it. Have you had any sales there?


Hi Barb,
I did before they did the revamp of the site, they took the sale numbers off and I haven't had anything since.  I do have some reviews but it was from bath and beauty items which I also sold on that shop.  I also have a lifetime free shop at Zibbet. 

Sales are important, people go by the amount of sales.  On Artfire I have over 300 sales, and I get sales there.  I was on a roll at Etsy before they changed their policies. So I am on a break from there, I didn't close my shops.

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Hi Barb,
I did before they did the revamp of the site, they took the sale numbers off and I haven't had anything since.  I do have some reviews but it was from bath and beauty items which I also sold on that shop.  I also have a lifetime free shop at Zibbet. 

Sales are important, people go by the amount of sales.  On Artfire I have over 300 sales, and I get sales there.  I was on a roll at Etsy before they changed their policies. So I am on a break from there, I didn't close my shops.

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I was on Artfire when they first started for quite a few years and then left. I went back and tried again a couple years ago but no luck at all.
Wish I could find some place where my girls clothing and my cards would take off.
there is very little profit in card making{ which is my favorite thing to make so I need a place where it does not cost to list. That just eats up my little bit of profit on cards
can make good on the dresses if I can find a place where they will sell. Did really good on ArtYah with them when I first started on here almost 2 years ago but sales have just dropped to nothing  I am going to try them again on here with them.

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@ 123 Gemstones.. Thank You..  my shop is https://www.artyah.com/seller/verdevalleybandb
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Hi Craig

Next time you send out a newsletter you might like to mention that if someone is not selling then it may be because their items have expired!   I looked earlier and realised that many of mine had ended and as I don't have reason to visit my shop(s) daily I had not twigged.

I am not relisting my nail art for a couple of reasons, the paper I use has been discontinued so I only have enough for a few months, then I will stop doing them I think.  I would have to change the postage individually on every one as our postage goes up again in a week or two.

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Hi Craig

Next time you send out a newsletter you might like to mention that if someone is not selling then it may be because their items have expired!   I looked earlier and realised that many of mine had ended and as I don't have reason to visit my shop(s) daily I had twigged.

I am not relisting my nail art for a couple of reasons, the paper I use has been discontinued so I only have enough for a few months, then I will stop doing them I think.  I would have to change the postage individually on every one as our postage goes up again in a week or two.


Thank you Christine,

I just enabled that feature to let sellers know when an item has expired. I did not know that it was unchecked.

I will send out a newsletter to follow that up.

Thank you,

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I seem to get more views here than on etsy (where I get zero some days) but sales are pretty dead on both. I would have to leave here if ArtYah opened to the manufactured crowd. I can't compete with their prices on etsy and sure couldn't try on two sites.

I used to have 2 - 3 sales per month on etsy before they began "improving" things. Recently I have let most items expire there and listed them here instead but I hesitate to close the etsy shop as I still make a sale there now and again. In reality, I am just losing money on both sites ;-(

Craig, I understand running a business that is losing money is not sustainable. I try to promote ArtYah shops by pinning at least three items (not my own) every day. Also pin the ArtYah logo now and then and try to promote on Instagram as well. As I do not have tons of followers, it's a pretty useless effort.
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i do not think that any effort is useless. Even with only a few followers.

I think there is a huge misconception about followers & watchers altogether though.

People follow or watch an item, it does not mean they are going to really follow or watch an item.
The item just simply goes into a folder for easy reference.

I have listed things on ebay in the past and people put a watch on it and the item does not sell. It could have several watchers on the item and not sell. That just tells me that they are not really watching it or want the item enough to buy it.

Thank you,

Craig

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Craig,

I think a number of us who are left understand all too well about financial crises, and feel your desperation.  Maybe I should just speak for myself, but I get the impression many of the sellers who first joined ArtYah were doing so because they were a bit desperate for sales (and income) themselves, in addition to being fed up with other sites.  For many sellers, if they don't see any profit coming in, they simply can't afford to continue paying fees, even if those fees are extremely minimal and very fair. I plan on continuing to renew my current items and add more as I have time, but during the spring and summer, money gets super-tight, so I will see how it goes during the next few months.  I feel we're all in the same boat right now, really wanting ArtYah to succeed but finding it difficult financially to go forward.

If times do get really desperate and you need to allow manufactured items, I would recommend to separate handmade/vintage/craft supplies from manufactured, or possibly favor handmade, vintage and supplies over the mass-manufactured items.  This way, those of us who are "authentic" will have a shot at sales and won't feel like we're drowning in a sea of junk.  Also, watch for sellers who will take advantage and list a gazillion items and take over the site, possibly running off potential buyers who see mostly one type of item on the site and that's it.  Maybe, like on eBay, place a limit on the number of items a seller of mass-manufactured items can sell.  For example, it might be fine to have 100 available of one item in one listing, but not 100 identical listings that dominate a search or several pages of the site.  I think many of us remember the days of eBay when we'd search for something like "headphones" and see pages and pages of the same item listed by the same seller.

Ideally, if the new platform can be created, we can all give it a try and see if that helps sales. We can then rave about the new ArtYah on other sites, to see if we can once again entice some sellers to join and list.

I'm glad you've started sending out reminders for expired items.  I hadn't been receiving those for a long time and have just been checking into the site to see if anything had expired.  I assumed some sellers had complained about those emails being spammy or something, and that's why we weren't receiving them anymore, but it just turned out to be a little ol' unchecked box. (:

I wish I had more ways to get the word out about ArtYah, but I just don't have much of a network, of any kind, that I can take advantage of.  I've always had ArtYah as one of the sites on the bottom of the care instructions I include with every sale, but I've learned over the years that my customers are extremely stubborn about always purchasing on one site they like, and they don't like to wander to any other site if they can stick to what they know.  This behavior always fascinates me since some of my prices on ArtYah are much cheaper, but no one ever bothers to look at all my listed sites to see where they can get the best price.  I have many returning customers who will only buy from the site they know well, and this is unfortunate for relatively new sites like ArtYah.

Alrighty, I didn't mean to write that much. haha.  I've been really busy the last few months and am just now catching up with some of the stuff I wanted to mention.  😃

--Michele


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